This week, Paul and Andy dive back into the vegan response to the COVID-19 pandemic with specific examples of those claiming a plant based diet makes one immune to the effects of the virus. In their main discussion, they respond to a listener question asking how vegans can effectively get across the seriousness of veganism. When many people respond  to vegan advocacy by saying “I don’t care if you’re vegan, you shouldn’t care if I’m not” or “live and let live”, does it mean we haven’t done an effective job of accurately conveying that veganism is a social justice stance? Ultimately it leads to a lengthy discussion about whether or not the phrase “meat is murder” has lost it’s meaning and relevance. Paul suggests a new alternative. 

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